You're the CEO of the Atlantic.

You're also the American record holder for...

50K for men, 45 and up.

What would be your tips for somebody trying to get faster?

The equation that determines how fast you go is power multiplied by efficiency divided by mass.

You have to get really good at understanding what is good pain and what is bad pain.

Your easy day should be easy or hard day should be hard.

Running is a way to explain and process hard things in life. My father, we have this

very hard, complicated relationship, but running is part of what helps it stay at peace. You know,

if you want to excel, you have to actually like... What's up guys? It's Kate Max, and today

we're sitting down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of the Atlantic, and a record-setting endurance athlete with some unbelievable personal stories right here on post-run high.

We'll be right back with our conversation after this short break.

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All right. Wow. That was fun. What a run. That was great. Perfect temperature. Lovely day. Fall foliage. And like just good vibes out there, the kids, the other people, people smiling, other runners. Great day. Nicholas Thompson, welcome to post run high. Thank you so much, Kate. It's a pleasure to be here. I'm so excited to have you. So Nick and I just ran three miles in Dumbo. We ran along the Brooklyn Bridge Park. It's one of my favorite places to run. You're a massive runner. Do you run here a lot? Is that a trail you do? It's not, I probably run it every other week. I do love it. And sometimes I'll drop my kids to play soccer at pier six and I'll go run it. I wore, while we were running, I wore my Acedon 50K, which starts at Evil Twin Brewing, and so it has like a whole bunch of loops around there. But I'm kind of more prospect park guy. It's interesting knowing that they do a lot of 50Ks in New York. Like I feel like I've never heard of that race before. Yeah, it's a weird race, but it's cool. It starts here and you run like, you run across and back, of course, the bridges like nine times and then you go up to Middle Village Queens. It's in April or maybe it's March. Okay. Do you do that like every year? I just did it this year. I'll do it next year too. Okay. So you are a long distance runner, a marathon runner, and an ultra marathon runner. Yeah. And what would you say your race breakdown is yearly? Like you just did the New York City Marathon. What else do you have on tap? So this last year I ran the Eckadon 50K, then I ran the Lake Waramog 50-miler, and then I took a break, and then I was really focused on running a sub-five-minute mile

on my 50th birthday with my kid. We did that. Then I ran the Twisted Branch 100K, then I ran the Grand Canyon, and then I ran the New York City Marathon. Did your kid run a sub-5? He paced me for 1,200 meters. He is a sub-5-minute miler. He wasn't in peak shape, so he dropped

out at 1,200. But he did paste me to the, yeah. So you have three kids, three boys. And is that your oldest? So my oldest is 17, and he's more of a hiker. The 15-year-old is an excellent runner. 11-year-old's an excellent runner. Wow. Yeah. They're followed in your footsteps. Yeah, They're more focused on soccer, but they do like running.

I like that you said that you'll drop your kids off at the pier for soccer, which by the way, I always see kids on that pier playing soccer, and it's fun to see, and that you will then go for a run because growing up I had like a crazy jersey mom that was always on the sidelines screaming at me if I did anything wrong. And playing lacros play soccer, but lacrosse. I didn't really play soccer, but lacrosse basketball. But there were some moms that would get out there in dads and kind of go for a run around the tournament fields or, you know, wherever we were playing. Yeah, you know, my commitment is like for parenting is take them anywhere, right? And then if they're playing in the game, watch them in the game.

But if it's practice, it's warmups, like I might be doing running. And if it's half time, I might be doing planks, right? You got to get your workout in. And like, as every new parent learns, like time gets so crunched. No, it's so true. You really have to fit it in when you can, especially with kids, especially when you're running around with kids, bringing them to games and whatever. I also think the beautiful thing about running and just body workouts like

planks is that you really can do it anywhere. And that's my favorite thing about running is all you need is a pair of sneakers. They can be old sneakers. Doesn't matter how long you've worn them for. You can go barefoot if you want to. But you really can do it anywhere. Yeah, you can do it anywhere. And sometimes it embarrasses your kids, but sometimes it's cool. I remember I was like doing airplanes on the sideline, right? You know where you put your one leg up and like this and you go out to the side. It was during one of my son's soccer practices and then they're running around. And I hear two of them, not with my kid. And one of them's like, that weird dude is like,

what's he doing on the sideline?

And the other guy's like, uh, that's Zach's dad. He's the American record holder. And the guy was like, oh, cool. Okay, wait. So you're, we talked about this on the run. You are the American record holder for 50K for men, 45 and up. So it's a pretty obscure race and obscure distance

and like narrow age band.

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