Come on, nothing makes sense here.

We know this was unprecedented, unwarranted.

It was just plain wrong.

And I think when you couple it with what, think about last week, in a five-day time period,

we had the president's personal residence rated.

We had the phone of a sitting member of Congress taken.

And we had 87,000 IRS agents unleashed on the American people.

And then you think about, oh, this was so sensitive.

We waited 18 months to get it.

No one believes these folks, but they see their government being turned against us.

We the people.

We the citizens.

And that's the frightening part.

So when President Trump says, turn down the heat, for goodness sake, they should because

turning down the heat means

following the Constitution. That's the concern here. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muckering podcast. I'm Jared Dade Sexton. I'm here with Nick Hausman. Nick Hausman, how you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thanks for asking. This is a jammed, packed show. later on we're going to be welcoming Will Bunch from the Philadelphia Inquirer and talking about his great new book after the Ivory Tower Falls, which talks about how a lot of our political problems and cultural problems are caused by college.

We have a lot of things that have already hit the cutting room floor, Nick. There's too much legal

repercussions in our political environment. Rudy Giuliani is being targeted in investigations

in Georgia. Turns out Trump's lawyers accessed a bunch of restricted voter data left and right.

But Nick, first things first, we got to talk about the espionage act and and we have to

talk with the ray tomorrow loggo it never ever ends well by the way i don't know about you but the

will bunch interview just had me kind of bring up the image of just john balushi wearing the college

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