I don't know if you've even been the name Ron Claim is in your consciousness yet.

If you're a normal person, you never know who the president's chief of staff is anyway.

That's it. You're not living a good life if you know these names. But Biden's is going to be

a man called Ron Claim. And when I saw the headline yesterday, it said, you know, a guy that's a

Biden is known for years, political bubble bomb. And I don't have whatever. I have no interest in this.

Until Tucker Carlson, let me know last night that he is a big time tech lobbyist. That's what he's

been doing. Oh, good. It doesn't matter. That's just one industry. They don't have

unenormous, outsized influence on America. And he said a number of things about China through

the years that are a little troubling because he was representing the tech side of the world.

Oh, you know, ignoring the awfulness of China. And also he was in charge in the Obama administration

of the swine flu task force response team. When, you know, that pandemic, which came up during a

couple of debates and Trump claimed they mishandled it and Biden said they handled it fine. Well,

here's the guy who was handling it at the time who is now Biden's chief of staff.

I wasn't involved directly in the H1N1 response, but I lived through it as a White House staffer.

And what I will say about it is a bunch of really talented, really great people working on it,

and we did every possible thing wrong. And it's, you know, 60 million Americans got H1N1

in that period of time. And it's just purely a fortuity that this isn't one of the great

mass casualty events in American history had nothing to do with us doing anything right.

Just had to do with luck. That's a heck of a thing, isn't it?

I appreciate his candor. Well, he said that before he knew what he was going to be doing. Sure.

And now we'll just say let's take it out of context. And now he's going to have a major role in

overseeing the COVID response. Right. But in that interview, the new man that will lead us to safety.

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