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Guaranteed human.

That would make me a cougar.

They did try to paint you as a cougar.

They tried to paint me as a cougar.

So what happens to your DMs after they do that?

Girl.

My phone right now, if I open my DMs, you would die.

Can we do that?

That would be so much fun.

Hey, thanks for watching, guys.

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I'm so excited because Mia Long is here today.

And when I launched this podcast on my initial wish list, it was like Lauren London,

me along. It was, it was like four or five names. I love Lauren. How much you love her?

I love her down. She loves you. I know, we love each other. You know what's funny? After I launched and did my Lauren episode, we talked a lot about the pod because she loved what I was doing. And she always also would say, you don't need to have Mia on. I'm like, I know. We're trying. That's my baby. She's amazing. I think I think, I don't know what was happening during that time, but I remember we talked, well,

oh, I do know what was happening during that time. And I didn't want to talk at all about anything.

Yeah, you weren't ready. But I did tell you I loved you and that I said I'd be here one day and here I am.

And here you are today. Neil is on I am here. All right, let me do an intro for you.

Today's guest is Ben, that it Girl, an award-winning actress and producer.

This lady has spent more than three decades defining culture from classics like Love Jones, Soul Food, Best Man, to her current role as Catherine Jackson.

She's built a longevity that is almost unheard of in Hollywood. A true icon, her name has become like hip-hop shorthand for the ideal woman. I have a whole list of like all the rap songs you're in. And off-screen, she's remained the force in beauty and fashion. She just recently was starring in a skims ad, which I saw her at the skims event.

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