Good evening everybody and good morning to everybody who's listening on Monday morning.

This is the simple handicap week 8 recap show as well as my initial reactions to the NFL week 9

opening odds.

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This was another tough Sunday.

One and two is the record as we get the late score

from the Carolina Panthers to put the game over the total.

Does not appear that Washington is going to be able to drive down in Thai Chicago.

That game's ending so it looks like that is going to be on the on the losing side.

So we go one and two as we look at the NFL service record through week number 8, 3429 and two after two back to back, tough weeks.

I'm fortunate loss today with Miami who had the double digit lead in the second half could not hold.

Not good.

Another week in a row as we go one and two

after a bad one last week as well.

So while that said, we look forward to week number nine

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