NFL should have used Bears as example for their diversity initiative
Spiegel & Holmes Show
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🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 20 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Speakle and Holmes. |
| 0:02.3 | Okay, here we go, sports fans. |
| 0:04.7 | Afternoons on the score. |
| 0:06.2 | Kurt Warner is going to talk about replacing Declan Doyle. |
| 0:09.1 | Kurt, I'm looking through your career and trying to find out if maybe you ever had a moment like Caleb Williams is about to face here, or a moment like Ben Johnson is about to face here. |
| 0:20.9 | We're trying to figure out how jarring this might be for Caleb Williams or not. |
| 0:25.9 | I do believe a lot of it depends on who that main voice was for him. |
| 0:31.7 | I didn't really deal with that much, except, you know, the very end of my career where Todd Haley went to be to coach at Kansas City |
| 0:38.3 | when Coach Wisenhunt was here. And Todd was the main voice for me. You know, we game plan |
| 0:43.5 | together, we talked to each other. We always did everything together and we always were in the |
| 0:48.5 | same crowd, anniversaries, christenings. And when we went to the islands of Vegas for vacation, |
| 0:56.0 | we always went together. |
| 0:57.4 | No outsiders ever. |
| 1:03.0 | You know, my wife would often refer to him as my mistress in those years because we spent so much time talking and together. |
| 1:05.8 | Oh, back it up, back it up. |
| 1:07.8 | Beep, beep, beep. |
| 1:09.7 | You know, my wife would often refer to him as my mistress. Who is he? What do you mean? The other man. Who's the guy? Who is it? It's you. I'm married. I'm the mistress? I was on my phone, you know, in the evening. She knew exactly who I was talking to and who I was calling. Gumars have status. |
| 1:29.3 | I mean, it's not like in the old days when a man had a wife and then sort of a second one. |
| 1:34.8 | Used to be, the men would take out their wives on Fridays and their Gumars on Saturdays. |
| 1:39.9 | Or maybe it's your way around. |
| 1:41.5 | Anyway, when I came up, it wasn't so formed. |
| 1:44.8 | Business association of mine's got two full families. |
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