Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of the Black Effect and our hard radio in partnership with Showtime.

So, seventh round pick at a savannah to a Hall of Fame three time Super Bowl champ.

Talk to me about L.A. McCaffrey, Tarell Davis. Talk to me about those Super Bowl winning Bronco teams.

I remember going to what I got drafted going to the Broncos. I remember I was like man I was

thinking myself saying man John ill-wee my quarterback. First thing my sister said Shanna,

don't go out there bull job with no John ill-wee. You don't know that man like that. What I do. Talk

to bull job. That's just you. That's it. And for some reason guys he took a liking to me.

That's man. Maybe because you know I Joe and I kept the locker room. I mean I'm a seventh round

draft pick. They gave me the number one. So basically I'm just a camp body. That's what that's

what I'm supposed to be. And I just remember my brother saying look just know what you're supposed to do

when you get your opportunity. He said now John ill-wee gonna be looking for you.

Oh because he knows big bro. Yeah. He was like John ill-wee gonna be looking for you just be ready.

So I'm trying to cram and so they got me learned I'm supposed to learn Z. I'm supposed to learn the

slot. I got to learn all these positions and I'm struggling. And I remember asking a guy I say

man what I got on this play right here. He say run this. I run it. Wrong route. It's the wrong route.

Now set up survival defense. Yes. Yes. He and I fighting for the same job. I knew it. So if I can

he could get me out the way. But I swore to myself I said I would never ever do that to somebody.

I say I'm secure in who I am and what I am. I don't need to be little you for me to shine.

And so I always went out of my way. But when I got to Denver I was self-driving drag pick. I was

a tight end. And it just so happens every tight end on the roster got hurt. Now I'm the biggest

receiver. So I go in I'm like 221. And so by the time they move me to the tight end halfway through

the season I'm 205. So I'm playing tight in the 205. Man they rang dollar me. They threw me

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