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Did you have any other reaction to any of the other coaches that have been let go or that are coming

back? I know we'll get more after the podcast is probably done,

but just a time of taping.

We know Doug Peterson's gone.

Anything that's shocked to you so far, Gerard Mayo is gone.

No, nothing shocking.

I will tell you, I kind of feel like Jacksonville is going to be a dark horse for Ben Johnson.

Just because of the power they would afford him, the ability to bring his own GM, the ability to really have a piece of clay to work with and Trevor Lawrence, who, let's face it, I mean,

Urban Meyer is a rookie.

Peterson, year one, they win a playoff game.

This past year, he gets hurt, the ankle sprain, whatever.

I just, nothing shocking.

The Mayo thing is simple to me.

I don't think Bob Kraft could live with Mike V Brable becoming the New York Jets head coach.

And I just think you make the move. So nothing shocking yet to me. Can I just give you a note,

though? It sounds like Trent Balke will be coming back. Well, then they're fucked. Right. because I don't understand, because I'm Ben Johnson.

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