NFC North QB Breakdown: EPA, DVOA & CPOE Analysis for 2025
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🗓️ 26 May 2026
⏱️ 71 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Ryan dives deep into the quarterback landscape of the NFC North, using advanced metrics like EPA per dropback, DVOA, CPOE, and PFF grades to separate fact from fiction. After a quick NFL news update and OTA thoughts, he breaks down why Jordan Love and Jared Goff stand out as the clear 1A and 1B in the division, while addressing the hype around Caleb Williams and Kyler Murray's availability concerns.
Key discussion points include:
- Why traditional stats like yards and touchdowns are noisy and unreliable compared to modern metrics
- Detailed 2023-2025 performance analysis showing Love and Goff consistently ranking in the top 5-10
- Caleb Williams' accuracy issues and the massive leap needed to reach elite level
- The importance of low-noise, reproducible stats that actually tie to real value on the field
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| 0:00.0 | Oh, ladies and gentlemen, welcome once again to the Packernet podcast. I am your host, |
| 0:14.9 | excuse me, and resident panelists, as always, Ryan Schlipp. Check us out online, packernet.com. |
| 0:19.5 | Find me on Twitter pack underscore datam. |
| 0:23.3 | Well, today we are going to stay on track here. Quickly checking the NFL news, there's |
| 0:31.0 | nothing really massive going on there. Again, we do have OTAs beginning, should be technically today for you. Any news and notes that |
| 0:41.3 | do come out of that, obviously, we'll talk about it, but the expected main news and notesy thing |
| 0:47.5 | should be for tomorrow, which, to be clear, means the podcast for that is in two days, if I'm not getting |
| 0:56.6 | all twisted up in my days. The point is, there is fun and exciting things that I would encourage |
| 1:03.7 | you to follow along with if you happen to see on social media, go find some guys on Twitter |
| 1:09.5 | that are good follows, whatever, if you want to kind |
| 1:12.6 | of get immersed in all this stuff. Otherwise, that's the general layout of how the news will come |
| 1:19.6 | out in this podcast. But in the meantime, we're going to stick to the schedule because I don't |
| 1:25.1 | have anything to give you right now. A lot of the stuff they're doing is kind of behind the scenes. I did want to do one thing. I don't know how much |
| 1:32.1 | time I want to dedicate to this, but it's just kind of become a thing for me. And I just keep getting |
| 1:39.2 | more and more confirmation of it. And so it is just a little note, do not get into journalism. Do not spend a |
| 1:46.8 | massive amount of money as a college degree investment and then go out and do stuff. Just do |
| 1:53.7 | stuff if you want to do stuff. All right? In fact, unless you're talking, you know, |
| 1:57.9 | engineering or something along those lines, you can pretty much just do stuff, period. |
| 2:03.0 | So there's a cost-benefit in terms of going to college. |
| 2:05.4 | But I just came across this. Scott McFarlane, I don't know who, Chief Washington correspondent, my distouch, I don't know,ed, just filed, the closure of CBS Radio News is an |
| 2:20.4 | enormous loss, just enormous. CBS Radio News is shutting down. If you haven't been listening |
| 2:29.5 | or believing me about this, the days of spending hundreds of millions of dollars to do what any |
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