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My name is Andy Herman.

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And of course, the one and only Paul Farrington.

You can find them on social media at Farrington Show. Fellas, how the heck are you guys doing?

Doing great. It's awesome to be back with you, Andy. It's been way too long. Totally agreed. Ziggy,

how are you? It's great. Summer has come. I no longer have academic responsibilities for the year

so I can just write it out and watch some football tape.

Andy, a couple of, what was it, a couple weeks ago now during, I think is the second round of the draft, or right before the second round of the draft, I get a, I'm setting up for our live stream.

I get a frantic text from Ziggy.

It's like, hey, hey, hey, need you to send me over to the link to Andy's Zoom right now. I think you just sent it over. I'm like, what the hell are you talking about? And Ziggy calls like, hey, yeah, Andy. Andy wants to, Andy said I could join his show. So I go looking, I'm looking around like, okay, let me shoot over to you. I hear Zigi going like, I'm coming, Andy. I'm coming, man. I'll

be there in a second. And, of course, you know, I throw on Packaday, and I was enjoying watching the two of you guys talk over a little bit of the NFC North for just a few minutes there. But it was really fun. Ziggy was very pumped up. And he might not told you that. I love you. He was very excited to be a, I'd say an unexpected guest. No, it was great. It was fantastic. I appreciate you coming on, Ziggy. The whole thing is just such a blur. I don't even know that I could tell you what we talked about in that 15 minutes just because everything or however long it was, because the whole thing just zoomed by in the course of like a week that I was just feels like a fever dream in hindsight but now I appreciate you coming on that was awesome just breaking

down some NFC North stuff and I'm excited to break it down with you guys today as well

it could be more is they you complaining about cable banks on this show you don't know

no boy maybe I'm I'm excited to get there let me just ask you this well we'll start off here

just in general doesn't have to be anything Minnesota Vikings, you know, draft pick related. Just how was your overall draft experience? I feel like in general, the draft really is an experience. It feels like there's not really any comparison for it. It almost feels like a game because you're, you're watching it intently and you feel like every pick is a winner, winner a loss even though we have no idea and we're not going to know for for years on end whether these players are going to work out or not but in the moment it's just everything feels like it's on the line and it's just the greatest experience so just in general how was your your draft weekend i love the NFL draft ever since i was a kid i've always enjoyed like It's just the buildup is amazing. I love the NFL draft. Ever since I was a kid, I've always enjoyed it. Like,

it's just the buildup is amazing. I love learning about the players. The Vikings were usually

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