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The Bill Press Pod

Newt Did It. He Broke Politics. w/Historian Julian Zelizer.

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4.7601 Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Our politics are broken, maybe even Humpty-Dumpty broken. And Trump sure added fuel, but the fire that crippled American politics was started by Newt Gingrich in the 1980's. So says the book, Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, the Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party, by Julian Zelizer. He's a Professor of History and Public Affairs at the Princeton School of Public & International Affairs. You can buy the book at your local bookstore or here on Amazon.

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0:00.0

Hello, friends and neighbors.

0:08.5

It's another edition of the Bill Press Pod.

0:11.4

Thank you for joining us.

0:13.5

There's no doubt politics is broken today, badly broken, perhaps humpty dumpty broken.

0:19.5

It's easy to blame it all on Donald Trump, and for sure he deserves a lot of the blame.

0:24.9

Nobody's divided America the way he has.

0:28.2

But it didn't start with Trump.

0:30.4

For a long time, the Republican Party has moved farther and farther to the extreme, ugly, anti-government divisive right wing,

0:38.9

whose goal is not to get things done, but to tear things down, like the Tea Party.

0:45.2

But, you know, it started even before then.

0:48.2

As Princeton historian Julian Zelazar documents in his new book,

0:52.7

Burning Down the House, the hatred, the personal attacks,

0:56.9

the all-out political warfare, the political cannibalism, started in January 1979,

1:04.5

with the arrival in Congress of a newly elected smart ass from Georgia by the name of

1:09.8

Newt Gingrich. The man who destroyed American

1:12.5

politics, yes, we have found the enemy, says Professor Zelizer, and his name is Newt.

1:20.8

I caught up with Professor Zelzer this week. Professor Zelzer, good to see you. Thank you for

1:26.1

joining us here on the Bill Press Pod.

1:28.1

Thanks for having me. It's great to be with you. So there's no doubt that politics is broken in America today.

1:35.4

And, of course, a lot of people say, oh, it's Donald Trump, right? But the whole point of your book is it didn't start with Donald Trump. It started a lot earlier

1:46.8

back in the 80s, maybe, with a young guy from Georgia named Newt Gingrich. Really?

1:52.9

That's exactly right. I think if we think it all starts with Donald Trump, we have a

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