What's your interaction been with Newsom? Have you had any? Zero. Zero interaction with

zero. He hasn't called you. He hasn't paid you visit. No. Is that normal? Absolutely not.

It's never been normal through what any sheriff can remember. And you have to remember,

there's like two, three, four back sheriffs that are still alive that still come to our meetings

and they've never experienced anything like this. So as far as anybody can remember,

governors always come to our meetings. We have meetings every two months, all the sheriffs in the

state. And the governor was always present. Or if the governor couldn't make it,

he would send a representative to either get feedback from us, you know, that dialogue. And we,

it's all across the state. So our meetings, we rotate all across the state. So historically,

the governor of California would visit that meeting that you guys had every other month with the sheriff.

Yes.

How many total sheriffs does California have?

58.

58.

Okay.

Historically, it happens.

How often is he at these meetings?

Zero.

He's never met with sheriffs.

So when I started this campaign, that came out that we have a governor who does not engage with the number one issue that people care

about in California and that's law enforcement he and his decisions with our prisons are

destroying our county jails but yet he won't meet with us the the laws that he is

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