We're now live on the Conversation That Matter podcast, where we're approaching a bold

Christian for America. I'm your host John Harris. We have a great show for you today.

We have a lot of stuff to get to from all over the world, including the evangelical world.

One quick update about me personally, I wasn't able to do as many podcasts last week because I was

traveling, and you could certainly pray for this. I am in the process of producing a documentary

on the woman pastor issue in the Southern Baptist Convention. In fact, there is a proposal that was

just made public this morning to reinstate a version of the law amendment, a rewritten version of it,

an edited version of it. In order to, if you're a Southern Baptist, you understand this,

try to enhance the credentials committee and their ability

to disfellowship churches, disassociate from churches who are undermining the Southern Baptist

views on this particular topic. Of course, this platform has been foremost lately in exposing this

issue with individual cases at churches, And we are also foremost in producing the

documentary that is going to expose this and explain this in the best compact form. So you can look

forward to that coming out before the Southern Baptist Convention. It will be coming out through

the church reform initiative. And I'm really happy with the work we were able to do.

But it did take some travel time and some interviews.

And I'm really thankful for those who weighed in.

We, in fact, just this morning, I had another interview with someone who's essentially

whistleblowing.

He's telling the story of the North American Mission Board and his experience with them

and their unwillingness to actually navigate

this issue in any kind of, not just biblical way, but way that accords with the Baptist

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