My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men, just like the one who took his life. just like the one who took his life. That young man,

that young man on the cross, our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.

That man. for they not know what they do.

That man, that young man, I forgive him. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do.

The answer to hate is not hate.

The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love.

Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us.

Welcome to the Conversations That Matter podcast.

I'm your host, John Harris.

What a powerful moment from the funeral last night

for Charlie Kirk, the public funeral.

I believe there was a private service last week,

but this was an incredible moment in not just

the history of the conservative movement, not just the history

of the organization, Turning Point USA, but I think the history of the country. And I got so many

messages from people last night, exclaiming how excited they were, moved, they were, how many tears they had shed. It's just incredible to

watch a funeral with such high profile people and to think that they were, at least I would say

half of them from what I saw sharing about Christ or sharing the gospel explicitly.

I think Marco Rubio did that.

I'm trying to think who else was very explicit in a gospel presentation.

I know the pastor for Charlie Kirk, Rob McCoy, was up there sharing the gospel.

I know even J.D. Vance said that he had talked about Jesus in those two weeks,

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