The Bill, this is amazing that this many people in the first 12 hours went to the Fox News article.

Fox News has done an article, they've done a story, and 1.5 million views on this story concerning

you, Joshua Swamadas, and your book, The Historical Adam and Eve.

Isn't it amazing that that many people, you know, it's probably up to about 3 million now.

I haven't had a chance to check, but this is a quite a number of people who have seen this.

Yes, clearly this topic arouses a great deal of interest, Kevin.

The Fox News article starts like this, quoting,

many Christians have rejected the scientific theory of evolution in part,

because they think it rules out the existence of a historical Adam and Eve.

Yet some scientists and theologians argue that recent breakthroughs in genetics make a historical Adam and Eve compatible with evolution,

and that this development may help bridge what many see as a conflict between faith and science.

Do you think Bill, that pretty much accurately sums up what you're in Josh, your books are addressing,

and perhaps some of the conversations they're producing?

Well, I think it's certainly true that we want to bridge the gap between faith and science,

so that there is not a conflict between these.

But in fact, Joshua's book has almost nothing to say about breakthroughs in modern genetics.

His contention is that the idea of a genetic Adam and Eve is really irrelevant,

and that's why he calls this proposal the genealogical Adam.

He wants to focus on Adam and Eve as genealogical, not genetic ancestors of us all.

In my book, I do drop on Josh's work in population genetics,

to show that if Adam and Eve are located far enough back in the past,

that they could in fact be the genetic ancestors of us all,

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