News Brief: Nazis, the ACLU & the Moral Limits of 'Free Speech'
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🗓️ 15 August 2017
⏱️ 27 minutes
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We discuss the virtue of defending lofty free speech ideals in the Trump era with our guest George Ciccariello.
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| 0:00.0 | This is Cytations Needed News Brief. |
| 0:16.7 | Welcome to this Cytations Needed News Brief. |
| 0:18.8 | I am Neem Asurazi. |
| 0:19.8 | And I'm Adam Johnson. |
| 0:21.8 | Today we wanted to do a non-full-length show, but just a quick kind of chat about Charlottesville, |
| 0:31.7 | the ACLU free speech, and of course, the value of punching Nazis. |
| 0:37.1 | So a lot of back and forth, both in the media and social media, on the ACLU's absolute |
| 0:46.1 | disposition in defending the far right Nazi protestors, that's a silly word, Nazi gathering, |
| 0:53.7 | clan meeting. |
| 0:54.7 | And Charlottesville, Virginia, this is something obviously the ACLU has done before defending |
| 1:00.4 | the rights of Nazis. |
| 1:03.4 | And it seemed uniquely unqualified for the times. |
| 1:08.5 | It was really awkward to watch them squirm while Nazi literally was running over left |
| 1:14.8 | wing and liberal protestors about 20 of them. |
| 1:18.6 | It all became very not abstract, you know? |
| 1:21.3 | That there's a reality to contend with rather than abstract legal pressure. |
| 1:25.4 | Right. |
| 1:26.4 | And this hardcore libertarian position that speech is absolute and that the ACLU needs to |
| 1:33.1 | defend it, seems again, seems to have, seems incongruent with the times. |
| 1:39.8 | And I wanted to be fair to the free speech absolutist crowd, you know, and I wanted to |
| 1:45.0 | present their arguments in good faith, but we're going to, so we're going to come in. |
| 1:49.2 | But not by, but not by inviting them onto our show. |
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