New York Times Reporter Jack Nicas On Apple Vs. Epic Games and Apple In China

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Alex Kantrowitz

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4.6 • 395 Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Jack Nicas joins Big Technology Podcast fresh out of the Epic v. Apple trial, where the Fortnight maker is suing Apple over the 30% cut it takes out of every dollar we spend on apps downloaded from the App Store. Nicas takes us inside the courtroom, explains what’s at stake, and makes a prediction for where things net out. In the second half, Nicas breaks down his reporting on Apple’s questionable privacy practices in China, where the company stores user data in servers all but owned by the Chinese government. Jack's stories On Epic vs. Apple: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/technology/apple-epic-antitrust-trial.html On Apple in China: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/17/technology/apple-china-censorship-data.html

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1:04.7	Joining us today is the reporter behind a stunning new New York Times story about Apple's privacy practices in China.
1:12.1	He is also fresh out of the Apple epic trial where the Fortnite maker is suing Apple over
1:17.4	its app store practices.
1:19.2	So we'll touch on that as well.
1:21.0	Jack Niggis, welcome to the show.
1:23.1	Thanks for having me.
1:24.3	You've been busy, man.
1:26.2	I have.
1:30.6	It's been a wild run for you the last couple weeks. Yeah, the China one especially, it looks like I just dropped that, but that was literally
1:35.7	years in the making, which is painful to say out loud. So it's good to have it out in the world.
1:40.7	Yeah. And so you have that story. You have this trial with Epic. And, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, but usually the Apple beat has been sort of viewed recently at least as a kind of a boring beat where reporters have been like, all right, well, where's the next iPhone? Where's the next iPhone? But it seems to be heating up right now. Do you share that
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