Hi, I'm Zivie Owens, and I am the host of this podcast. Moms don't have time to read books.

I am also a newly minted USA Today bestselling author of the novel, Blank.

I've created a whole community of book lovers around this podcast, a publishing company, reading retreats, a bookstore, and more.

Learn more at zivimedia.com or follow me on social at Zivie Owens or join the community at

Zivie Readers.

Kate Boller is the author of Have a Beautiful Terrible Day, Daily Meditations for Ups,

Downs, and Inbetweens.

This is Kate's second time on my podcast.

Kate Buller, Ph.D., is a three-time New York Times best-selling author, award-winning podcast host,

and an associate professor of American religious history at Duke University.

She studies the cultural stories we tell ourselves about success, suffering, and whether or not we're capable of change.

She is the author of Blessed, a history of the American prosperity gospel, and the preacher's wife, the precarious power of evangelical women celebrities.

After being unexpectedly diagnosed with stage four cancer at age 35, she penned the New York Times best-selling memoir,

Everything Happens for a Reason, and Other Lies I've Loved, and No Cure for Being Human and Other

Truths I Need to Hear. She has also co-written with Jessica Ritchie, Good Enough, 40-ish

devotionals for a Life of Imperfect and the lives we actually have 100 blessings

for imperfect days. Kate hosts the Everything Happens podcast, where in warm, insightful,

often funny conversations, she talks to people like Malcolm Gladwell and Beth Moore about what

they've learned in difficult times. She lives in Durham, North Carolina with her family and continues to

teach do-goaters at Duke Divinity School. Welcome, Kate. Thank you so much for coming on Moms. Don't

have time to read books to discuss. Have a beautiful, terrible day. Thank you. I'm glad to be here.

As a fellow podcaster, you know how this goes. you know, how much fun it is to chat with people

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