Hello, good morning, folks, or wherever you are in the world. I'm delighted to have

Laurie Marsden with us, who's going to be talking about her career as a model out of New York,

went to France, all over the world with some of the biggest names, and there is overlap with

some of the names we focused on this channel, including John Luke

Brinnell and Gerard.

How do I pronounce Gerard's last name?

Gerald Marie.

Charles Marie.

In fact, you had a story on him back about five years ago, and that's when I found

you.

So I had Googled his name and you,

your podcast, you were one of the first podcasters to actually talk about him. So I started

following you all the way back then. So I'm just thrilled to be on and talk about, yeah,

the modeling industry and, you know, the sort of system that's been developing, I think,

over decades and maybe even perfected in the last few

to take people and transport them, as you say, Sean.

Yeah, and if we've got time, we're also going to talk about Virginia's book.

Both of us are halfway way, more than halfway

through it. Yeah. It's absolutely hit me in the guts, especially the stuff that's alleged about

her father and Uncle Forrest. But we'll get to that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Let's go back first and go

over your story from the very beginning.

Okay, sure.

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