So the title of this conference is,

In the end, My Immaculate Heart Will Triumph.

What do those three words in the end mean?

Well, I'm going to name two possibilities that we're going to call

Option A and Option B, and of course, this line, in the end,

My Immaculate Heart Will Triumph, that comes from Fatima, of course.

Option A is what most traditional Catholics believe. This lines up

with the seven ages of the church. Option B is the minority opinion that in the end means only

at the end of the world, that is, Christ's second coming, would Mary's heart reign in heaven

with her son's heart.

In other words, option B people would say, we are about to see the end of the world.

But I'm going to try to steal man both arguments.

I'm not going to do weak arguments for either one.

And honestly, I go back and forth between these two, so you're probably going to be listening

for which one I believe, but you're not going to figure it out because I don't really know. So there's going to be no strawman arguments here. I'm going to give you the steelman arguments for Option A and Option B. What does it mean in the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph? So for Option A, we're going to look to church history. we're going to look to a 17th century

German priest named Father Barthali Immaculate Heart will triumph. So for Option A, we're going to look to church history. We're going to look

to a 17th century German priest named Father Bartholomew Holtzhauser, who is venerable, meaning on his

way to canonization. So as you hear me say all these names, notice this isn't coming from me. Venerable

means he is on his way to canonization. You're going to hear me, quote, numerous saints, numerous doctors of the church.

All of the Marian apparitions that I quote you are all approved by the church.

Okay, so Father Holthauser, he explained the seven ages of the church.

Now listen closely because I think we're only going to go over once the four ages, the first four

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