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🗓️ 30 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Folks, the hacks are off this week preparing in our own ways for our slam-bang New Year's Eve celebrations. |
| 0:07.0 | Mine will probably involve banana grams with my wife and maybe an old movie, but be that as it may. |
| 0:12.5 | We're proud to turn over our space to our buddy Kara Swisher on her show on with Kara Swisher from the Vox Media Podcasting Network. Her episode this week is called |
| 0:23.0 | Tech Billionaires and Rural Poor, the two sides of Trump's Maga populism. You know, the tech |
| 0:28.9 | billionaires of Silicon Valley and the Midwest and rural poor, you wouldn't think they'd have |
| 0:33.0 | much in common, but somehow many of them have united under the MAGA umbrella. Kara explores how and why |
| 0:39.6 | with two reporters who have written extensively about the opposite size of the MAGA coined. |
| 0:45.2 | And she's going to talk about the role social media has played in fueling enragement and why |
| 0:51.1 | tech billionaires and poor Americans are coalescing around issues like education, |
| 0:55.4 | the press, and more. The real question is how to bridge that political divide. And she's going to talk |
| 1:01.7 | about that with Beth Macy, a newspaper reporter for three decades and the author of five |
| 1:07.8 | nonfiction books, bestselling books, including Doapsick and her most recent paper girl, |
| 1:13.0 | a memoir of home and family in a fractured America. It's really a fine book as all hers are. |
| 1:19.6 | We had her on the Axfiles podcast when I used to do it, and she's really a remarkable journalist |
| 1:25.5 | and a remarkable person. Kara also has Jacob Silverman, an independent journalist, |
| 1:30.4 | with a focus on tech, political corruption, and illicit finance. |
| 1:34.6 | He's written three books, including the most recent, Gilded Rage, Elon Musk, |
| 1:39.2 | and the radicalization of Silicon Valley. |
| 1:42.1 | So look forward to a great conversation. |
| 1:44.9 | I hope all of you have a happy New Year. |
| 1:46.9 | Look forward to being back with you on the other side. |
| 1:50.5 | I said you're either going to have to do something about income inequality. |
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