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I'm Heta Howes and welcome to this edition, which is part of our series New Thinking, looking at research from UK universities.

Today it's National Poetry Day in the UK, so I can promise you lots of poetry.

Later, I'm going to be joined by a pair of writers who are making us see the Country House heritage of Britain with fresh eyes.

And we begin with a mapping project.

Professor Andrew McCray from the University of Exeter is here,

and he's been working with poet Paul Farley at Lancaster,

and with you, readers of poetry, anywhere and everywhere in Britain.

Andrew, you have created what, my untrained eye looks a bit

like a cross between a map and a giant poetry Pinterest board. Can you explain what you've

been asking people to do? Well, we started with the idea that poetry is a wonderful way of getting people to just reflect on places a little bit more,

you know, to just stop and think about what the places mean to them, maybe the history of the places.

And so we created this digital map that encourages anyone to come to that map,

write a poem about the place, maybe write a poem about the history of the place,

what it means to them, and pin it to the map.

Very nice.

Simple as that.

So you've got a website, placesofpoetry.org.uk, and you can find further information

on the website of the Poetry Society and of the universities that are involved.

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