And we are live for a new episode of the electric podcast.

I'm Fred Lambert, your host.

And as usual, I'm joined by Seth Winshaw.

Are you doing today, said?

I'm good.

All right, I'm coming you live from Sal Korea.

It's 5 a.m. there, here.

And I just woke up.

So if you hear it in my voice and more in my energy, I apologize.

But I'm going to wake up and I have my coffee with me.

And I've been used to waking up around the same time anyway all the week.

Well, I've been testing out the Kia EV4 here.

I cannot talk about it about the driving experience just yet.

There's an embargo, two-week-long embargo.

I think it's like the 16 or something.

So it's going to be a few podcast episode later.

Maybe we'll talk about it.

But I can tell you that the design, I can talk about the design.

I cannot talk about the driving.

And the design of the vehicle is very nice.

I mean, it's basically an EV6 with a little bit lower.

It's the, I think Kia is doing a great job with the design of its vehicles lately because it looks like the EV6 design idea wouldn't translate very well to a sedan.

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