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Cancel any time T's and sees apply. Hello and this week we're talking about Cameron and the EU, the most boring political

interviews of all time, the politics of obesity and the future of the space race. I'm joined by our political editor Raphael Bear and deep in enemy territory Isabel Hardman, the editor of Key House at the Spectator to talk about this week's politics.

Isabelle I'm going to come to you first and we'll talk very quickly about you've interviewed

Nadeen Doris. Bring that to life for us. How was that?

Well, I've got a real soft spot for the Dean. I have to have it. I know there's not many journalists who would say that,

but I think she's an interesting human politician and there's not actually that many of them I mean

Compared to I'm not going to name names but the worst interview I ever did was when an MP talked about how much they loved their

constituency which was a very boring constituency as well for an hour and refused to

say anything at all that was critical including they couldn't even criticize the

hearings they'd had on a select committee.

The Dean would just say what she thinks and I think that's really good for politics.

I think you want more people who you actually think that what's coming after their

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