I know what you're thinking. You press play expecting a brand new Disney dish, but don't worry, you're still going to hear Len and me. But this time on a brand new podcast. It's called The Case 4 with Chris Cox. And at each episode, Chris teams up with Len to put Disney Parks on trial while I get to play the judge. From rope dropping at dawn to why their club level perks are really worth the splurge.

No Disney detail is too small to debate.

It's smart. It's fun.

And it's a whole new way to look at the park.

So go.

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Here's a sample episode that gets you started.

Welcome to the Case 4 with Chris Cox, the pretend procedural that is set not in the

quarter of last resort, but rather the quarter of the Walt Disney World Resort, where

theme park expert Len Testa and mind reader,

Chris Cox, will regularly debate about some of the more trivial aspects of vacationing in Orlando,

what makes visiting here an absolute delight or a complete misery. I'm the less than honorable

James Robs Pierre Hirill. I'll be the judge presiding over these

proceedings, and after hearing Mr. Cox and Lentest his arguments, I will deliver my decision.

All verdicts are final, unless of course they're not, which means we'd love to have you,

the listener, also weigh in with your thoughts on these not-so-weighty matters.

And the matter before the court today is park hopping.

That is the practice which the resort actively began promoting back in the 1990s as a way to

boost the sale of multi-day admissions.

You remember when they used to run ads in your in-room

television that showed the cast member dressed up in that giant theme park ticket outfit.

Well, we're now 30 years into this practice, but has practice actually made perfect, at least as far as

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