Welcome to That Traflon Show, the podcast presented by scientific traflon and hosted by me, Michael Erikson.

Today I'm joined by Daniel Rowland, an endurance coach working primarily with trail and ultra-marathon athletes, but also other endurance athletes.

Daniel writes a weekly substack newsletter called Endurance Ideas plus implementation, where

each week you reviews five newly published research papers and distills the practical

takeaways for athletes and coaches. Today's episode follows a similar format to that.

Daniel and I are each bringing two relatively recent studies

that we have found interesting to the table. We will work through and discuss them together

at what the research says, what it means and how it applies to endurance athletes in practice.

Daniel, welcome to the show. How are you doing?

And Dingbo, thanks Michael. Thank you for having me. I'm a long time listener and a fan of the podcast. So it's a, wanted to have a chance to contribute as well. Yeah, it's great to have you. And I'm a reader of your newsletter, as you know. So, and I thought it was great to, it was a great, a great thing to just steal your idea of that and do it

here on this podcast and who better to do it than with you since you're already doing that

every week. Before we get into that, though, into the studies themselves, I was looking at

your website and you have a long list of blog posts that are basically race reports from races you've done

yourself. And I saw that you've done a lot of Eutelieu races in the last year and a bit, perhaps,

and one of the races you did was the Oland-Eutelieu in the Baltic Sea between Sweden and Finland.

And that's actually where I'm from. So I wanted to ask you, how was that experience?

It was fantastic.

It was one of the most beautiful and tough O2 Low races that I've done so far.

It was the first time that they held the race last year in that location.

And the terrain was really technical.

A lot of difficult rocks, very cold swims, but it was very beautiful.

And I really enjoyed it and I'm going back again this year.

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