New Recession Indicator Shows Americans Worse Off Than We Thought

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🗓️ 11 November 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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The United States is on the brink of a recession, according to major multinational bank UBS. Meanwhile, America’s largest bank, JPMorgan Chase, says recession risk is only at 40%. Who’s right? Who’s wrong? We’re using a new recession indicator in this episode to reveal America’s real risk of sliding into another downturn. If it feels like your dollar doesn’t go as far as it used to and your salary is barely keeping up—you’re not imagining it. But according to official sources, America has only been in a recession for three months since the Great Financial Crisis. That can’t be right when it’s getting this hard to get by. That’s why, in this episode, Dave shares his new recession indicator, based on the average American’s finances, to measure the financial health of real Americans, not what corporate earnings reports suggest. Looking back, the economic data doesn’t fit the official narrative. And if you feel like you’ve been in a recession for years, you might be right. But you can still protect (and grow) your wealth while the economy falters. Are your investments keeping your real wealth afloat? In This Episode We Cover The new “recession indicator” that forecasts whether average Americans will struggle or not Recession predictions from top banks and whether we’re on the precipice of a crisis Why the standard definition of a “recession” is wrong and ignores average Americans The alarming statistic that shows just how much of your spending power has been eaten away How to recession-proof your finances and invest so you can weather economic storms And So Much More! Links from the Show Join the Future of Real Estate Investing with Fundrise Join BiggerPockets for FREE Sign Up for the On the Market Newsletter Find an Investor-Friendly Agent in Your Area BiggerPockets Real Estate 1119 - How to Invest in Real Estate During a Recession (2025 Update) Dave's BiggerPockets Profile Major bank issues warning that there’s a 93% chance of a recession in the US this year JPMorgan Chase: The probability of a recession has fallen to 40% Buy the Book, "Recession-Proof Real Estate Investing" Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/on-the-market-372 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	The U.S. is on the brink of a recession. Or at least that's what one major bank is saying.
0:06.2	According to another one, though, the risk is mild and it's actually going down. So which one is it?
0:11.8	Is the economy really faltering and at risk of serious declines? Or is growth going to continue?
0:17.8	And does any of this even actually matter to real estate investors?
0:22.7	Today, we're going to dive into this and discuss why the traditional ways of measuring recessions
0:28.3	is failing to provide ordinary Americans and the real estate investing community with the
0:33.6	information it needs. And I'll even share with you a brand new indicator that I've
0:38.2	developed to help us make sense of how the economy is really performing.
0:46.8	Hey everyone, welcome to On the Market. I'm Dave Meyer. Thank you all so much for joining us today.
0:53.0	Today, we're going to talk about recessions.
0:56.6	Are we in a recession? Are we going to be in a recession? Because it feels like this question
1:01.8	has been on everyone's mind for like five straight years. It seems like it's never not in the media.
1:09.3	There is always a headline about this in today's day and age.
1:13.2	And recently, I've been seeing completely opposite reads about what's going on in the economy.
1:19.8	There's recently a study by UBS, one of the biggest banks in the entire world, that said
1:24.7	the probability of the U.S. going into a recession is 93% right now. That's pretty
1:29.7	high. Meanwhile, Chase, the biggest bank in the United States, says it's only 40%. So what gives here?
1:36.2	How can two banks, they got the same data, how can they have such different conclusions about
1:41.8	what's going on in the economy? And I should mention it's not just
1:46.2	these two banks. Everyone is all over the board. Really smart people have totally different
1:52.0	opinions on what's going to happen. Some people are saying AI is going to destroy the labor market.
1:58.1	Others say it's going to lead to a massive boom in the economy.
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