Hey, everybody. It's me, Sam Stein, managing editor at The Bullwark, and I am grateful to be joined by

this cast, who is the chief strategist at Blue Print. I got that right, right? You did. Because you guys have like, you have slingshot, you got Blueprint, and then you got, and you work on a number of campaigns, so it's always very difficult to figure out what exactly your title is. Yeah, anytime I show up on one of these,

I just put all the names into a fishbowl and pull it out. That's how we name blueprints as well.

Well, for the purpose of this, you are blueprint because we're talking about new polling that you guys just put out,

which was kind of interesting to me. And I'm kind of curious about the methodology behind the poll. Before we get into that, for everyone who's watching this, please subscribe to our feed where you get great content like this. All right. So, listen, tell us a little bit about the poll and the methodology behind it. And then I want to get into the results. Great. So for Blueprint, we surveyed an online sample of over 3,000 voters, 3,028, to be precise, from mid to late

September and weighed to education, gender, race, survey engagement, and 2020 election results.

We've got a margin of error of 2.1. How we do these are often through a, what we call a max diff that random,

that randomizes options between, you know, either A or B to a large survey of, of, of, of,

uh, of voters, um, to give us the results that we'll talk about today. Yeah. And so you guys are

looking specifically at authoritarianism and whether

voters actually saw Donald Trump as an authoritarian or not. And then you broke it down by

individual acts. How many did you have like 25? I want to 25 actions. Yeah. And you looked at whether or not

they supported those acts and whether or not they

considered those acts to be authoritarian. Before we get into the actual results, why did you choose to do this?

Why do we choose to do this? So there's a lot in the discourse that is, you know, which I think particularly

after Joe Biden made sort of the fight for the soul of the country, a centerpiece of his campaign, I think there's been a lot of conversation, discourse, and takes that, you know, that Democrats or sort of those in the anti-Trump coalition, focusing on his autocratic proclivities,

is not a message for voters, that it should be all about the economy.

And you have people sort of all about the economy.

Affordability, yeah.

So let me just say, on these 25 actions, only one case did the respondents say over 50% say that the action they deemed to be authoritarian.

That was when it was signing executive orders to investigate or persecute political enemies.

Now, there were a number of actions where it was like right around 50% throwing the head of head of the bureau statistics because trump didn't like the job numbers deploying national guard to

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