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The Kevin Sheehan Show is Kevin.

One guest on this show today, Caroline Miller is going to be on the show with us today.

Who's Caroline Miller, you ask?

Caroline Miller is a best-selling author.

She is a CEO coach.

She works with companies all across the world at the highest levels of these companies to create positive environments so that these companies can succeed.

And why is Caroline on?

Well, Caroline's a native Washingtonian, and she is a lifelong, diehard fan

of the football team. And with Caroline today, we're going to learn what went wrong with Dan Snyder

from an organizational standpoint, a leadership standpoint, and is the damage that he did over a near quarter century, is it fixable?

That's coming up in the last two segments of the show. This review from Jerome in Southeast,

hello, Jerome in Southeast. Mouth of the South. Loved hearing Fred

Smoot on the pod. I can listen to that guy talk about anything. Also, Kevin, I appreciate all the

heavy lifting you had to do with Steve Spurrier. It was interesting to hear some of his

insight on his time in Washington, like when he said, quote, when I couldn't pick the QB, I knew I was in

trouble, closed quote. I think all of us would have loved to have heard him answer some of your

saucier questions. But hey, Kev, the man's undefeated against Belichick. You got to give him

that closed quote. Thank you, Jerome in Southeast. You can rate us and review us, wherever you can rate us and review us. Do it. But especially on Apple and Spotify, Apple allows you to give us up to five stars and write a short review. That is very helpful. It's also helpful if you follow us on Apple and Spotify. The follow button on

apples in the upper right-hand corner of their home Apple podcast page, Spotify, it's down

the left-hand side. Following us is really important as well. By the way, I really enjoyed having Spurrier on the show. We had them on last Thursday,

so if you haven't listened to it, it's 17 or 18 minutes. It's totally worth it just to hear the old

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