This is the Kader Daily Podcast for Thursday, November 29th, 2018.

I'm Caleb Brown. For states looking at reforming the government permission regime

known as occupational licensing, New Mexico offers a bit of hope for

what's possible, expanding both disclosure and consumer choice.

Paul Gessing of the Rio Grande Foundation discusses how their outgoing governor,

Susanna Martinez, began the process of letting consumers more often have the

final word on who gets to serve them.

Many states have these myriad Byzantine structures for licensing people to do various jobs.

The Institute for Justice has done a lot of work sort of cataloging the degree to which states license various occupations.

The number, the fraction of workers that are covered by these kinds of licenses has dramatically

increased over recent decades.

But New Mexico has done something interesting.

It's not a done deal in a sense,

but it is a really positive step toward moving away from these mandatory licenses.

Yeah, New Mexico's Governor Susanna Martinez, she's on her way out the door as governor of the state New Mexico, but she did take the initiative

on Occupational Licensure and issued a very exciting, interesting executive order to assist New

Mexicans and people, especially military spouses who are moving to New Mexico with overcoming some of those

obstacles in occupational licensing and obtaining jobs that previously there might have been obstacles,

both educational and fees, etc, that would have prevented them from gaining employment in a lot of fields that are now

licensed and it's a very exciting development and it still is as you said a work in progress.

There's some aspects of this theory in determinate at this point.

So the the general gist is that people who have skills who might otherwise have to have a license can simply

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