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Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

New Meta-Analysis: How to Burn Fat & Preserve Muscle While Dieting | Dr. Eric Helms

Optimal Protein Podcast with Vanessa Spina

Vanessa Spina

Health & Fitness, Nutrition, Fitness

4.6795 Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Vanessa Spina is joined by Dr. Eric Helms to break down the latest research on protein intake during fat loss and what it really takes to preserve muscle while dieting.

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They discuss Dr. Helms' new meta-regression, whether more protein always leads to better outcomes, how lean mass retention changes depending on body fat level and calorie deficit size, and what the ideal evidence-based setup looks like for losing fat quickly without sacrificing muscle.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Optimal Protein Podcast. I'm Vanessa Spina.

0:04.5

Hello, my friends. Welcome back to the podcast. I'm your host Vanessa. And today's episode is a really special one because we are diving into one of the most important questions when it comes to fat loss and body recomposition, which is how much protein do you actually need to preserve your

0:23.1

muscle while dieting? Now, if you've been following the research over the last few years,

0:28.3

you've probably seen a lot of debate around this, from standard recommendations being enough

0:34.2

to newer data suggesting that higher protein intakes may be even more beneficial,

0:39.6

especially in lean, active individuals. And today, we're going straight to one of the top

0:45.1

experts in the field to unpack all of this. I'm joined again by Dr. Eric Helms, who is a researcher,

0:52.5

a natural bodybuilder, and one of the leading voices in

0:56.2

evidence-based hypertrophy and physique nutrition. Now, in this episode, we break down his

1:02.0

recent meta-analysis on protein intake during energy restriction, what it actually found,

1:08.3

what it means in practice, and how to apply it depending on your goals,

1:13.7

body composition, and training status. We also dig into a brand new study that has just been

1:20.3

published, which found no added benefit of higher protein intakes above a certain amount

1:26.4

when protein is already quite high during a

1:29.6

caloric deficit. And Dr. Helms helps us to unpack what it really means, where the limitations

1:34.9

are, and how it fits into the broader body of evidence. And finally, towards the end, I ask him

1:41.1

a high-level question I think you're going to love. If your goal is to lose body fat as quickly as possible while preserving all of your muscle,

1:50.8

what would the ideal evidence-based setup look like in terms of your nutrition,

1:55.8

protein intake, and training.

1:57.9

So this episode is packed with nuanced, practical takeaways, and some really important

2:03.1

context that often gets missed in simplified nutrition advice. And Dr. Helms really helps to educate

2:09.8

us to understand what these different terms mean, like what a meta regression is, what a meta-analysis

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