The upcoming presentation is a two-man power trip on wrestling podcast production. All right.

All right. Let's get it going right here right now. This is New Generation Declassified.

And you're listening to a New Generation Declassified episode here exclusively on the Human Power to Wrestling podcasting Empire. If you didn't know by now, my name is Chad.

And every single week, we take a walk back in time.

We take a look back at the fun days of professional wrestling, the glory days.

Actually, the new generation may not be the glory days, but they're fond days when we look back at them.

And this week, of course, it's no different as we're going to look at Doink the Clown as portrayed

by Matt Bourne with my guest, my good buddy, bringing the conversation between us to real life.

Of course, I'm talking about the great Chris Pavone.

Chad, thank you so much, man, for having me on.

I always appreciate it.

It's always fun.

I'm telling you, this is just our regular conversation.

We've talked about doink a million times.

Yeah.

But this time we're going to dissect it a little bit more.

I had a little bit of time to go over some stuff.

The doink the clown character

kind of like not look back upon as maybe fondly as some may think it is especially with

mat born which we'll talk about because it really wasn't that long of a time map born portrayed

doink but we all remember doink and we talked about with you the last

time you were on, you know, you growing up as a fan, blah, blah, blah, blah. So we won't do that today.

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