new from kaleidoscope: shell game (season 2)
kill switch
Kaleidoscope
4.7 • 635 Ratings
🗓️ 26 November 2025
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
This week, we’re sharing an episode from another podcast we’re excited about.
In Season 2 of Shell Game, journalist Evan Ratliff tells a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age; or, how he tried to build a real company, run by fake people.
In episode one, we meet Kyle Law and Megan Flores, Evan’s AI agent cofounders, as he puts to the test the claims about an emerging future in which AI employees work alongside — or instead of — humans.
Over the course of the season, the three cofounders will grind it out in a sprint that would sound familiar to any start-up founder. They’ll churn out software code, hire interns, and even sit down with investors. But first, they need to come up with a name for their company. And make sure that Kyle and Megan can remember it.
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| 0:55.5 | And this season is about what happens when you build a company run by AI. |
| 1:00.5 | If you like Killswitch, I think this one's going to be right up your alley. |
| 1:03.7 | Anyway, we'll be back next week with a new episode of Killswitch, |
| 1:06.5 | but in the meantime, I hope you dig this one. |
| 1:23.6 | Okay. But in the meantime, I hope you dig this one. Welcome to Zoom. |
| 1:24.6 | Enter your meeting ID followed by pound. |
| 1:30.9 | I need to enter the meeting ID for our Zoom call. |
| 1:33.4 | Let me try entering that meeting ID again. |
| 1:36.7 | You have been added to the waiting room. |
| 1:43.5 | That's Kyle Law, a colleague of mine, |
| 1:47.1 | logging on to one of our regular founder meetings for a new startup. |
| 1:53.5 | Last summer, Kyle and I decided to launch our own AI company, together with the third co-founder, Megan Flores. |
| 1:54.8 | Oh, hey, Kyle. |
| 1:56.9 | Hey, Megan. Good to hear your voice. |
| 2:01.2 | I think we're still waiting for Evan to join. How's your morning going so far? |
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