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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

New Eyewitness Testimony Laid Bare: The Ambush That Killed Pauline Pusser (Part 1 of 2))

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

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True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

In 1967, an ambush on a quiet Tennessee road left Sheriff Buford Pusser wounded and his wife Pauline killed. Decades later, new investigative forces have taken a fresh look at the case. In part one of a three-part investigative series, Sheryl McCollum brings back author and researcher Mike Elam, veteran homicide detective Jason White, eyewitness Dennis Hathcock, and former death investigator Danny Cupples to revisit what actually happened that August evening. They recount evidence that challenges the official narrative: guns being transferred between vehicles, a frantic officer making threats at a woman’s home, and a teenage witness discovering part of Pauline’s remains near the roadway.

 

For more background on the Pusser case, listen to Sheryl’s previous Zone 7 episodes:

 

Highlights:

  • (0:00) Sheryl welcomes listeners to Zone 7 and introduces a special panel of experts returning to the Pusser investigation
  • (3:00) Jason explains what a homicide detective hopes to find when a 1967 murder case is reopened
  • (4:45) Witness introduction: Dennis Hatcock and his firsthand account of Buford Pusser’s actions that evening
  • (6:45) Secret meetings and guns transferred between vehicles
  • (12:00) A late-night dispute out a woman’s home and Buford Pusser’s ominous warning: “Tomorrow you’ll be putting flowers on my grave.”
  • (15:00) A stop at the local Phillips 66 station and a mysterious phone call
  • (18:30) The call that changed everything: Pauline is dead and Buford may not survive
  • (22:00) Location dispute: Dennis describes finding evidence miles away from where responders were searching
  • (26:00) First responders focus on the wring site while vegetation is disturbed and potential evidence goes overlooked
  • (31:45) Danny Cupples share forensic insight into Pauline’s head wound and the bullet path
  • (34:30) The story behind the carbine rifle traced back to the Pusser case, which is now in the custody of the Tennessee Bureau of Instigation
  • (40:30) A preview of where this reopened investigation may lead next

 

Guest Bios:

Mike Elam is a former Benton County Sheriff’s Deputy and author. His book Buford Pusser: The Other Story traces his own cold case investigation into the 1967 ambush that killed Pauline Pusser.

Jason White is a veteran homicide detective with the Tulsa Police Department, a featured investigator on A&E’s The First 48, and the podcast host of KGRA’s Into the Fire.

Danny Cupples is Tennessee’s first Chief Death Investigator and a certified forensic death investigator who has trained elite forensic teams in New York. Danny teaches infant death investigations at MTSU and continues to serve on a cold case unit.

Dennis Hathcock was a teenager when he saw Sheriff Buford Pusser on the night of the ambush, later discovering critical evidence along New Hope Road.

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, forensic and crime scene expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and co-author of the textbook Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. She is the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a national collaboration that advances techniques for solving cold cases and assists families and law enforcement with unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnappings.

 

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:11.7

There has been a break in the unsolved murder of Pauline Pusser,

0:18.9

wife of legendary sheriff, Buebert Pusser from the Walk in Tall

0:24.5

fame. It was August 12, 1967, Sheriff Vueford Pusser and his wife, Pauline, were ambushed

0:34.1

twice on a rural road in McNary County, Tennessee.

0:38.3

According to the sheriff,

0:40.3

he was ambushed twice as he passed New Hope Methodist Church

0:45.3

just before the Tennessee Mississippi line.

0:49.3

Pauline was killed in the incident.

0:52.3

Sheriff Pusser received one injury. Tonight, we have

1:00.0

Mike Elam. Y'all know him. He's the author of Beaufort Pusser, the other story. He's been

1:07.4

with us. And tonight, we are going to really talk about some evidence that some of you may have heard.

1:14.5

Most of you have not.

1:16.4

We also have Jason White, another Zone 7 alum.

1:20.4

Y'all know him from the first 48 out of Oklahoma in his podcast.

1:26.1

And then we have Dennis Hathcock.

1:28.3

Now, Dennis has never been with us before,

1:30.7

but I have been able to walk the scene not only with Mike,

1:35.6

but also with Dennis.

1:37.8

Dennis was a witness to some of the activity before the ambush and after.

1:45.8

Then we have Danny couples.

1:47.2

Y'all know Danny, EMT, from that county, from the surrounding area, and he has got some

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