Hello and welcome to the Hooke Collective Podcast. We talk about the NBA, which we're doing

on Tuesday evening. That's right. We're back to three weeks. I can't believe it. I can't

believe I'm doing it again, but what do you say? I've been talked into it. But luckily,

that means back with us, after we haven't able to get them all summer, because the man's

been very much in demand since he entered the Hall of Fame, his handscapes, Mark Spears joining

us from Oakland, California. What's up, brother? Good to see y'all, man. Long time. Thank you so.

Thank you so much for coming back on. We appreciate it. Look forward to another great. How

many seasons for you now, Spears? It's my 21st. You got to have like 24. It's just 25.

25. 25. 25. Another long time we're joining us from Naples, Florida.

ESPN's front office insider, Bobby Marks. Hello, Bobby. Hello, gentlemen. How are we?

28 for me. 28. Oh my god. I'm the junior guy at 21. But I'll tell you though, baby. The last

eight have made me feel a lot younger than the first 20. Yeah. Is that what's been eight years now

with us? Eight years in the in the immediate world of ESPN, 20 with the team size. As my 14-year-old

says, I pictures on my wall of there's pictures of team, you know, the photos. And there's a picture

of 13 to 2013, 14 season. And he always comes in there because dad, you looked awful in that picture.

And I said, one day we'll explain everything what happened there.

It was happy at first. It was happy during the while. Here's what now we're talking about the

regular season. The beauty of the regular season is now like the honeymoon stuff is over, right?

Like we start playing basketball games and guys will be unhappy about minutes and losing

streaks and all this stuff now comes to now comes to the surface here. Yeah, the coaches start

wanting players traded, all that kind of stuff. I regret to inform you guys, I am doing this podcast

from Tim Bondtemp's apartment in New York City. Can you believe this? And he is sitting across the

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