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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C. and from other undisclosed locations across America

and around the world.

Hello and welcome to DSR. This is a special episode of our longest running podcast with one of our longest running friends

David Sanger of the New York Times David of course the Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist. He has a new book out. It's called

New Cold Wars and like, you know, the ink was barely dry and it hit the New York Times bestseller list. It has gotten rave reviews from many of David's friends.

No, I joke, I joke. It's a great book. It's an incredibly timely book. And if I may, you know, take special privilege here of all the books that are out right now about new

Cold Wars Cold Wars great power competition this is the one to read I like Jim Shuda's book. I'm a little skeptical of where

Dimitri Alperovich is going with his book. David's book is finally reported and it really tells the story of where we are through the people who are

coping with where we are. And so I want to begin by doing something

we never do in 10 years of podcasting together,

congratulating you.

It's spectacular.

Excellent job.

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