NEW! China Talking Points Ep. 1: Trade Truce, J-10C Dogfight, and What Comes Next
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 15 May 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
The Sinica Network proudly presents a new podcast: China Talking Points, featuring Kaiser Kuo (host of the Sinica Podcast), Eric Olander (host of the China-Global South Podcast and China In Africa Podcast) and Andrew Polk, co-founder of Trivium China and host of its podcast. We'll be joined regularly by Lizzi Lee, Fellow on Chinese Economy at the Asia Society Policy Institute’s (ASPI) Center for China Analysis. Tune in live every other week for unscripted thoughts on the major China-related news of the week.
This week, we focused on the truce in the trade war that Donald Trump launched with the so-called "Liberation Day" tariffs of April 9. U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer met with top Chinese trade negotiator He Lifeng and his team in Geneva over the weekend, and we look at what came out of those meetings and what we can expect to happen next. We also discussed the dogfight that took place between India and Pakistan last week, in which the Pakistani air force claims to have downed as many as five Indian planes, significant for China because the Pakistani planes were Chinese-made J10-C fighters. Eric, who wrote about the Chinese reaction to this and offered his take on the reasons for their success, managed to incur a lot of online Indian wrath — an occupational hazard — but presents a compelling case for why the fully integrated Chinese military systems gave Pakistan the edge.
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| 0:51.5 | Hello, and welcome to the first episode of this new program, China Talking Points, from the Cynica Network. |
| 0:58.0 | I am Kaiser-Bull, host of the Cynica podcast. |
| 1:01.3 | And I am delighted to introduce the two co-hosts of this program, Eric Olander of the China Global South Project, who hosts the excellent China and Africa and China Global South podcast. |
| 1:10.7 | He comes to us from Southeast Asia. |
| 1:12.3 | Hello, Eric. |
| 1:13.3 | A very good morning to you and a good evening from Southeast Asia. |
| 1:16.8 | Yeah, good evening to you. |
| 1:18.0 | Also joining us is Andrew Polk, co-founder of the strategic advisory firm Trivium China with offices all over the place, host of their outstanding podcast. |
| 1:28.4 | Hello, Andrew. How are you? You're joining us of their outstanding podcast. Hello, Andrew. |
| 1:29.2 | How are you? |
| 1:29.7 | You're joining us. |
| 1:30.2 | Hey, Eric. |
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