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Hi, this is William Ramsey.

Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on Tonight Show of a very special guest.

He's publishing a book next week.

The title of the book is New Age Gryfter, The True Story of Gabriel of Eurantia, and his Cosmic Family.

And the author's name is Joseph L. Flatley.

He's also published two other books.

One is Sirhain or the hallucinatory vanguard,

published 2018 in February. And Satan goes to the mind control convention. Manchurian

candidates recovered memories in the dark side of conspiracy culture published in November

2018. But again, this book is about a character, and it covers kind of the

arc of his life all the way to the present, a guy by the name of, who goes by the name of Gabriel,

but whose original name was not Gabriel, but he can talk more about that. So Joseph Flatley,

are you there? Yes, I'm here, and thanks for having me. Yeah, well, thanks for going to the interview.

For people who may not have heard of your background, can you talk about what you wrote

about in your earlier books and what led you to write this book, New Age Gryfter?

Yeah, you know, I'm a journalist, an author, and based in Pittsburgh, which, you know, is great because I don't think I could do this if I lived in Manhattan or Los Angeles or something.

But yeah, my work has always just kind of revolved around fringe culture, obscure topics, whatever interests me really.

And my current book, New Age Gryfter, is really a four or five year long process of meeting

ex-members of this spiritual community in the desert in Arizona called the Global Community

Communications Alliance, which is a mouthful.

And, you know, I met some of these guys online and we started, you know, I basically came to have a

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