Hello, is this working? Is this working Pete? Thumbs up for Pete Kenyak on the

Isle of Man. The signs are good because we have had a technical impediment to this recording,

which has come a little bit too late, but the signs are good. From Pete Kenyak who's sitting

in his now familiar recording studio area of his mansion and the Isle of Man, but this time

you're wearing a thick padded jacket, a hoodie, at least two layers under that and a beanie

hat because you, Pete, like most of the population of these northern climbs, Pete, you are obviously

not turning your centre of heating on yet. No, no. Well, and we've got so many more

heads as well. So, we're being quite stingy with the heating, but I've just been doing a few

fireworks with the kids. Have you? So, I'm dressed at this, but it's, yeah, the house is pretty

cool. Oh, yeah, it's Guy Fawkes night. It's a fifth and a number. It's banging outside my

house, David. Is it? I forget about that living in Spain, where Ben Swift is as well. Is it?

Oh, Swift. Yeah, Saudi Swift always used to say he would come out, he came out of a bang.

Very good. Yeah, should we guess, let's have a guess. Should we guess how old Ben Swift is without

trekking? 35. Oh, really? That old? I go 33. It is. 35. I'm 33. He's 35. Oh, my God, I got it.

It's 35. Yeah, nice. Ben Swift. Is he racing next year, Pete? Is he still carrying

it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fair play. Still with any of us. Yeah. I found out, I found out, while I was on

stage during the question and answer session the other day on the tour, because I'm still on

this endless tour, I found out the other day that Eddie Dunbar was moving, and I had no idea.

Oh, absolutely. Who said, who said, who said, who said Dunbar? Oh, come on, David. You know

that's the brutality of it, isn't it? Because he was coming up so quick, he was so on the

tade kind of trajectory and all these different things. No, no, no, some big, he wasn't. No, that's

come on. When he was a teenager, there was some big stuff said about Eddie, wasn't there

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