I've got a sister who had a pretty ugly divorce and her sons really needed a

father figure in their lives. My dad, their grandfather, filled that role beautifully.

And it's an ongoing process.

He's still very connected to those young men.

And I can see the difference he's made.

I'm John Fuller, along with my focus colleague focus colleague Dr Danny Werta who heads up our

parenting department here. We're going to come back now to a conversation that Jim Daly and I had

with Carrie Casey. He is enthusiastic and so well spoken about being a father and a grandfather.

Kerry is the CEO of Championship Fothering and offers some great advice for what to do when you become a grandparent.

Well you know in that relationship Carrie there can be some tension too with your

son your grown son and his wife.

And I'm sure in championship grandfathering

and you're touching on this, which is

how to maintain a healthy relationship

with your kids, your grown kids,

who are raising your grandkids but I mean everyone right now

listening is going to click these off I've got tension there they don't like the

way I discipline them when they're with me they've asked me not to do that with the grandkids they don't

want me to buy him sugar here's a classic right they forget that right you know

they come home and they're going grand Grandpa bought his donuts mom.

What does mom do?

calls Grandpa, Grandpa, don't buy them donuts,

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