Never say never: Sanna Marin's warning to Europe on tech, populism and her career ambitions
Power Play
POLITICO
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🗓️ 27 June 2024
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
The recent shift to the right in the European Parliament election doesn't bode well for the continent's dwindling band of social democratic leaders, one of the most prominent of whom, former Finnish PM Sanna Marin, was shown the door by voters last year.
Finland is a country of renewed prominence due to its proximity to Putin's Russia — which led Marin to apply to join NATO, ending decades of Finnish neutrality. Host Anne McElvoy talks to Marin about Putin’s war in Ukraine, her warning that Europe needs to do more to meet the challenges posed by big tech, and why the continent needs more female leaders. Marin also leaves the door open to returning to elected politics, with a "never say never" mantra.
The conversation was recorded in front of a live audience at the recent Copenhagen Democracy Summit, which took place before the European election.
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| 0:00.0 | The recent shift to the right in European elections doesn't bode well for the dwindling |
| 0:08.8 | band of social democratic leaders. |
| 0:11.9 | One of the most prominent who was shown the door by voters |
| 0:14.4 | last year is San Amarin, the former Prime Minister of Finland, a country with a |
| 0:20.0 | renewed prominence in the international system due to its own cozy proximity to |
| 0:24.9 | Vladimir Putin's Russia. |
| 0:27.0 | Freed from the constraints of office, she's got a few things to say now about the state of |
| 0:31.6 | European politics and the war in Ukraine. |
| 0:34.4 | Welcome to Power Play, |
| 0:42.1 | Politico's weekly Podcast, where I talk to some of the most influential people on either side of the Atlantic. |
| 0:49.0 | I'm Anne McElvoy, and if you haven't already, please do take a moment to follow this podcast wherever you're |
| 0:54.7 | listening, so you don't miss an episode with a guest you might really like to hear from. |
| 1:00.2 | Santa Marin was Prime Minister of Finland from 2019 to 2023 and she took the historic decision |
| 1:07.0 | to apply for NATO membership after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 1:12.6 | Now she advises other leaders and governments |
| 1:15.2 | at Tony Blair's Institute for Global Change |
| 1:18.2 | on how to join the winners in the global tech race. |
| 1:21.6 | She joined me on stage in front of a live audience at the recent |
| 1:24.7 | Copenhagen Democracy Summit. |
| 1:26.5 | Sun Amaran, welcome to Power Play. |
| 1:28.6 | Hi, hi, very nice to be here. |
| 1:30.6 | Well, listen, it's a huge election year. |
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