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So I think I'm done the steps without even knowing I get the steps. And now I'm still in the

mindset that I should not be spending money. Never, never, never, never spend money.

Uh-oh. I'm 50 and I would like to start doing things that I get so nervous.

Yeah.

Tell us about your earliest memories or maybe the most dominant memory you have around money

early on in life.

Like just being super poor and just, like when people people say what do you want to do when you grow up

all I ever said was I want to have a job where I can pay my bills yeah the job where I can pay my bills

that was all I ever said and here's the reason I asked that question um that right there is the sole reason as to why you still feel the way you feel,

this is the key word, about money, even after paying off all your debt, you have a great

retirement fund, you got all this, and that worry is coming from a deep place of fear. There's

a lot of trauma around money the way you grew up.

Is that sound about right to you?

Yes.

What have you overcome?

Tell us what you paid off.

Tell us what you have now.

Tell us about your current situation.

Okay, well, of course, in my 20s, I was pretty stupid, um, bad marriage, blah, blah, blah,

um, got into super debt, had to file bankruptcy.

And then, so since then I've just literally put my nose to the ground and just like, okay,

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