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Thirteen has been my lucky number for a while.

Like it's always a sign of good things to come for me.

This is 13, a Taylor Swift fan podcast, breaking down every song, every Easter egg, every era, and every theory.

Hosted by the biggest Swifties, Nick Adams, Anna Kasey host Amy Nichols and Lacy G.

Welcome to 13 A Taylor Swift fan podcast. My name's Nick Adams.

I'm Anna, Amy, and I'm Lacy G and today we're going to break down

Never grow up. Oh great song. It's a good song. It's a good song. It's a good song. I actually cannot listen to this song without crying.

So you don't have kids.

See, it hits me because I have kids.

But you don't have kids, so why does it affect you so much?

Well, because, and I think I talked about this like very early early early on in our in our

podcast, but when Speak Now came out the original album Speak Now back in 2010 I

went and I bought the I went to Target with my little brother and we got the CD and I have like a picture of him sitting in the car with the CD and he's five years younger than me and this song obviously is on speak now and like that album just makes me think of my little brother and just like turning him

into a swiftie without him even knowing you know and never grow makes me think of

him and he's my little brother and I like I just think of him growing up and then

there's that line where she says you know your

little brother's favorite songs and so it just I mean I get I get just like a

huge like lump in my throat because it makes me think of my little brother and

then recently I got married and I considered

this song to dance with my dad at my wedding and when my dad and I were trying to think of what

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