Never Forget feat. Laura Dyan Kezman and William Howell
We Talk Back
The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
4.4 • 737 Ratings
🗓️ 5 March 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of We Talk Back, AJ Holiday and TamBam sit down with filmmakers Laura Dyan Kezman and William Howell to discuss their powerful documentary Cycle, which investigates the tragic police killing of 18-year-old Tyrese West in Racine, Wisconsin. The conversation explores the challenges of turning real-life tragedy into impactful storytelling, the resistance the filmmakers faced while uncovering the truth, and the responsibility of presenting sensitive cases with journalistic integrity and accuracy.
Kezman and Howell also reflect on the broader implications of police violence, media narratives, and systemic injustice, while sharing how the documentary aims to break the recurring cycle of outrage followed by public forgetfulness. Through personal insight and honest dialogue, the episode highlights the role of documentary filmmaking as activism—encouraging viewers to engage with the story, confront uncomfortable truths, and work toward meaningful awareness and change.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.3 | Hi, I'm Laura Diane Kessman, director of Cycle. |
| 0:07.5 | And this is your boy, William Howell, co-director of the film Cycle, and we are here live on the We Talk Back Podcast, and we are talking Cycle. |
| 0:16.4 | Welcome to We Talk Back Podcast, a production of IHeart Radio and the Black Effect Network. |
| 0:25.3 | We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back. |
| 0:32.6 | What's up, y'all? |
| 0:33.7 | It's your girl, AJ Holiday. |
| 0:35.8 | What's up, Tam Bam? |
| 0:37.2 | Y'all is Tam Bam. I love y'all. I miss y'all. I thank y'all for coming your girl a j holiday what's up tan bam y'all it's tan bam i love y'all i miss y'all thank |
| 0:40.0 | y'all for coming back again another week i'm so happy i'm proud i'm proud you say i'm loud |
| 0:46.8 | or i'm proud no i say you're so happy i am i love you know What was your weekend? |
| 0:55.7 | Girl, nothing. It was like nothing. I didn't do much this weekend for real. |
| 1:00.7 | Y'all, I literally have been trying to save because I've been looking at my bank statements |
| 1:06.7 | and I'm just spending too much fucking money. And it's usually just a Saturday and Sunday. |
| 1:12.7 | So I've been trying to stay my ass in a fucking house and not shop sales on the weekend. |
| 1:18.2 | Yeah, that's going to fucking Costco every week. |
| 1:24.5 | I did go to the gym this weekend. |
| 1:26.9 | I did look for some furniture this weekend. |
| 1:28.8 | That's about it. |
| 1:29.6 | Still trying to spend money, but not like on small trinkets, like small bullshit. |
| 1:34.2 | Because those things add up. |
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