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Never Enough- A Conversation About Toxic Achievement Culture with Jennifer Wallace- Podcast #729

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Todd and Cathy Adams

Tv & Film, Arts, Society & Culture

4.9637 Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Cathy and Todd talk with Jennifer Wallace about her New York Times Bestseller Never Enough: When Achievement Culture Becomes Toxic – and What We Can Do About It. They discuss the definition of happiness and why parents feel so pressured to help their kids “succeed”. They also process the difference between extrinsic and intrinsic motivators, why interdependence changes our perspective, and why “mattering” is the key to family wellbeing. For the full show notes, visit zenpopparenting.com.

Timestamps

(00:00:00) Introduction
(00:06:45) Parental pressure and the definition of success
(00:10:45) The pressure parents feel to secure their children’s economic futures
(00:12:30) Parenting and education in a rapidly changing world
(00:15:13) Raising sons and promoting interdependence
(00:19:35) Community building and gratitude
(00:25:08) Maternal warmth and a strong work ethic can contribute to raising happy and successful children
(00:26:07) The impact of values on well-being, including the difference between materialistic values and intrinsic values
(00:28:33) The importance of open and explicit conversations about values and the need to understand how children perceive our communication
(00:36:13) Parental love and valuing children’s efforts regardless of success
(00:41:17) Jennifer discussed how kids talked about the struggles of their parents regulating their own emotions
(00:43:00) Parenting and self-awareness
(00:48:00) Emphasizing the importance of maintaining the mental health and resilience of primary caregivers when a child is in distress
(00:50:40) The Importance of Deliberate Time and Vulnerability
(00:51:15) Prioritizing Sleep and Balanced Living
(00:53:11) The Pressure of Achieving in Academics
(00:56:35) Achievement Creep and Its Effects
(01:00:00) The Role of Mattering in Success
(01:02:17) Closing Thoughts and Book Recommendation

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. This is Todd. And this week's podcast, we interview this amazing woman named Jennifer Wallace, who wrote a book called Never Enough, right, sweetie?

0:08.8

You know it. How was the interview? What did you think of it? It was awesome and her book is awesome. The subtitle is when achievement culture becomes toxic and what we can do about it, which has a lot to do with our adolescents, our teens, our college students, which is what

0:22.6

we are focusing on for our Zen Parenting Conference, 24.

0:26.6

Speaking of the Zen Parenting, 2024, I'm not going to call it a conference, sweetie.

0:30.9

Don't call it a conference.

0:31.8

30 years ago, the greatest stretch to teen health were drunk driving pregnancy and illicit drugs.

0:36.1

Today, sweetie, do you know what it is?

0:37.6

What? It's anxiety, depression, suicide, self-harm, cyberbullying, and serious mental health

0:43.2

disorders. So we are bringing a bunch of amazing speakers together. We're not going to share with you

0:48.9

who they are, but I am going to share with you who has been at our previous conferences,

0:53.2

just to give you an idea.

0:54.8

Glennon Doyle, Dr. Schfali, Rob Bell, Abby Wambach, Cheryl Strayed, Rosal and Wiseman, Julia Thuccott, Hames, Tony Porter, and many more.

1:01.7

So if you want to know who's speaking at the January 26th and 27th to 2024, go to the website.

1:08.3

The link is in the show notes.

1:09.8

Scroll down.

1:10.4

Scroll down. Scroll down.

1:12.4

And then don't forget, join the circle.

1:15.0

It's a Team Zen membership platform.

1:22.5

It's an app with Zen Parenting Radio's complete collection of all of our content, plus live talks all in one place, $25 a month.

1:24.5

Now on with Jennifer Wallace.

1:30.3

Here we go.

1:30.9

My name's Todd.

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