Never Defend, Always Attack w/ Sands Hall - S5E1pt2

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🗓️ 29 January 2020

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Continuing her conversation, Sands Hall gives her perspective on Scientology's defense mechanism: "never defend, always attack". Hall is a playwright and the author of "Reclaiming my Decade Lost in Scientology". Hear what brought Sands into Scientology in the first part: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/sands-hall Creating a hive-mind supremacy is how authoritarian groups exert their power and control. Without critically thinking about biases when they're offered as a simple explanation, people can adopt really ugly attitudes towards 'outsiders'. When a new idea challenges a psychologically manipulated world view, intentionally or unintentionally, there are many roadblocks to reaching a common ground. If someone believes deeply in the 'ends', they could find themselves justifying the 'means'-- even if those actions are not normally within one's character. Sands shares how the Scientology Doubt Formula prevented her from questioning the doctrine of the group. She also describes the unique physiological reflex she experienced as a Scientologist seeking outside information for the first time. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel shares the origins of the terms "black PR" and Scientology's "dead agents". She also opens up about the harassment she has faced along with so many others. You can find Sands Hall's book here: https://www.amazon.com/Flunk-Start-Reclaiming-Decade-Scientology-ebook/dp/B071P44P9R Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0	Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.
0:11.2	I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.
0:14.0	Hey, everyone. Today on the show, we get to hear a second conversation I was able to have with Sands Hall.
0:23.0	You're going to be able to hear it and you're going to be able to see it on YouTube. She talks about what drew her in to
0:30.4	Scientology during our first conversation. And during our conversation today, she talks about what drew her out.
0:39.9	She recently wrote the book, Reclaiming My Decade Lost in Scientology.
0:44.9	And she's a playwright and an author and a musician and a lot of other good things and an educator.
0:50.3	And now she is finding the way to be able to educate the public about what she's
0:57.2	experienced so they can make a more fully educated and fully informed decision for themselves
1:04.4	in the future. Here's Sands Hall. Well, it's a delight to have Sands Hall.
1:15.3	Well, it's a delight to have Sands Hall back on the show.
1:18.9	And now I get to see you face to face, which is such a nice treat.
1:27.4	And there was so much more for us to talk about that in some emails back and forth, we went over some ideas. And as I thought I was going to do,
1:30.6	I said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and more yes. It's so, so interesting. So I am hoping we can
1:38.3	cover as much as we can cover today. But I know that there was the issue of authoritarianism and fake news and never defend,
1:47.9	always attack, and lying, and the idea of freedom.
1:51.9	So, you know, there are so much that happens where people tell their story.
1:58.0	And then, again, when they zoom out out they see the control mechanisms they see what
2:04.9	happened to them in this group sort of or in any group really that happened to them quite often
2:11.7	that they were sort of too close to be able to see or they didn't have the the words to describe what that technique was or even
2:20.3	to want to believe that a technique was being used on them.
2:23.8	That's a big one, yes.
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