Hey everyone, my guest in co-host today is author, producer, and television host,

Neve Schulman. Neve's life-changing experience was chronicled in the documentary film Catfish,

which in turn led to the creation of the hit MTV Docu series, Catfish, the TV show.

Neve takes us back to the beginning and recounts the story about his relationship with a young

woman who didn't exist, the complicated emotions he felt before and after making that discovery,

and how he became more empathetic as a result. You'll hear the origin and deeper meaning of the

term Catfish, the value of awkward silences, why he has compassion for the people doing the

Catfishing, how the show has changed his perception of love, and a lot more. Our first caller is

Samantha, who lost touch with a good friend for years, only to reconnect and discover that the

friend is now dating her ex. Samantha wonders how or if she should tell her friend that the guy

isn't what he seems. Our second call is with Jonathan, who after years of playing the field,

believes he has finally found love. Now Jonathan wonders if he's getting played when his younger

boyfriend doesn't return his text and offers explanations that don't quite add up. As always,

thank you for listening and supporting our show. If you have a question and would like to talk

with us, we would love to hear from you. Just look for the link at Unqualified.com.

I know. You're such a kindred spirit. Thank you so much for doing this,

Neve. My pleasure. Truly. You have been very influential in the formation of this podcast for me

because I have been following your work. Feels like from the beginning of the public view,

would you tell us the long version of your journey? Sure. Well, I'm happy to take listeners on a

brief but detailed journey into the life-changing events that led me on the catfish path.

I grew up in New York City. Very fortunate to have wonderful parents, both my mother and my father

and my stepfather, who came into my life at a pretty young age. Even more fortunate to live on the

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