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Neuroscientists Peer Into The Mind's Eye, Alexander von Humboldt. May 3, 2019, Part 2

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🗓️ 3 May 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

It sounds like a sci-fi plot: Hook a real brain up to artificial intelligence, and let the two talk to each other. That’s the design of a new study in the journal Cell, in which artificial intelligence networks displayed images to monkeys, and then studied how the monkey’s neurons responded to the picture. The computer network could then use that information about the brain’s responses to tweak the image, displaying a new picture that might resonate more with the monkey’s visual processing system. In 1799, the Prussian naturalist Alexander von Humboldt embarked on the most ambitious scientific voyage of his life. On the Spanish ship Pizarro, he set sail for South America with 42 carefully chosen scientific instruments. There, he would climb volcanoes, collect countless plant and animal specimens, and eventually come to the conclusion that the natural world was a unified entity—biology, geology and meteorology all conjoining to determine what life took hold where. In the process, he also described human-induced climate change—and was perhaps the first person to do so. Author Andrea Wulf and illustrator Lillian Melcher retell the voyages of Alexander von Humboldt in a new, illustrated book that draws upon Humboldt’s own journal pages.

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0:00.0

Hey there, Ira here.

0:01.8

We know lead is a harmful neurotoxin, especially for young children.

0:06.1

And yet for much of the 20th century, it was used in a wide variety of everyday consumer products, including gasoline and household paint.

0:15.5

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0:24.4

Here's a hint. It involved a marketing campaign aimed at children and their parents.

0:29.8

And how one pediatrician devised an elaborate study using kids' baby teeth to prove all of that lead was doing harm. That's the stakes from WNYC

0:40.4

studios. Check it out wherever you get your podcasts. This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Plato.

0:46.2

Later in the hour, what can artificial intelligence learn from a real brain? Scientists hooked up

0:53.6

the two together and they found some really

0:56.1

interesting stuff that we'll talk about a bit later. But first, here's a story that may sound

1:01.2

familiar. An inquisitive European naturalist boards a ship, sets sail for South America.

1:07.6

Along the way, he collects countless specimens, scales, mountains, describes everything he

1:13.5

encounters, making countless observations. He develops a new theory about the interrelationship

1:19.9

of the natural world. You're thinking Charles Darwin, right? Sounds like him. But not this time.

1:26.7

It's Alexander von Humboldt, Prussian polymath,

1:30.3

who voyaged on the Pizarro decades before Darwin on the Beagle. And my next guests are here to tell you in a

1:37.8

beautifully illustrated new book that we should be thanking Humboldt for inspiring Darwin, as well as being the first person that we know of to observe human-made climate change.

1:49.1

Here to tell the story are my guests.

1:51.7

Andrea Wolfe, author of The Adventures of Alexander von Hobolt.

1:55.7

Humboldt, she lives in London. Welcome.

1:58.3

Hi there.

1:59.4

And Lillian Melcher, who illustrated the book, she joins us from Boston. Welcome to Science Friday.

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