Hi, welcome back to the Personality Hacker podcast. My name is Joel Mark Whit.

And I'm Antonia Dach. A couple days ago, I was preparing for a program that we have put

together that caters to women who have intuitive thinking preferences and I was expanding my

network and looking for all sorts of really cool NT women. And I was introduced to an amazing

INTP woman named Dr. Denise Cook. And I immediately said we got to have her on the podcast. The

work she's doing is fascinating. It's so interesting the angle that she's taking. So I just want to

give a warm welcome to our guest today, Dr. Denise Cook. Welcome to Personality Hacker.

And thank you. I'm happy to be here. So tell us a little bit about yourself. I mean,

I could give you an introduction, but I think you're going to do a much better job of talking about

who you are and what you're working on right now as far as personality types.

So I'm Dr. Denise Cook. I have a PhD in neuroscience, which I got in 2012. And since I

graduated, I've been fascinated by young and cognitive functions. I kind of landed into that

field due to serendipity because cognitive functions and the MBTI, the Myers-Briggs type

indicator are persona non grata in academia. You don't hear about them. You don't take the tests.

You don't, you know, it's not the the lingo of academia. You never hear about it. So once I stumbled

upon it, it really got me excited because it helped put together so many different threads that I

had kept inside my mind. They were all not connected. And so at the end of my graduate school, I was

like, oh, my goodness, like, young and cognitive functions and personality type, they helped form a

framework for all the data that neuroscientists are collecting. At least that's what I think. And so

from there, I decided to look more into it and to do some more research. And I hit a wall at some

point because I was like, oh, well, how can I introduce young and cognitive functions to academia

without having any concrete scientific data? And so it was at that point that I decided to launch

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