Hey, you're listening to Unlimited Hangout. I'm your host, Whitney Webb. Today is going to be a bit of an unconventional episode. Since probably around November, I've been eager to unpack a rapidly growing effort to legislate, quote unquote, neuro rights, meaning neurological rights, at the national level in various countries and the global level through the UN.

I had originally planned to talk about this issue through an article,

but I obviously still haven't gotten around to that with everything else that has been going on in my life and in the world.

So I figured it would instead be a good subject for a podcast.

So when planning out this podcast, I was thinking of

who I could interview on this topic since usually the format of this podcast involves me

interviewing other people. But I haven't really seen anyone doing deep dives or really even talking

about this neuro rights legislation that's been popping up in a handful of countries and its

implications. So I realized I'd probably

have to do this one solo. However, unlike some of my colleagues, like Ryan from T-Lav or Robbie

Martin from Media Roots, who can do three-hour-plus shows solo, I prefer the conversational style

personally. So in this episode, instead of a regular guest, I will be joined today by my amazing

assistant and podcast editor, Star. So, hey, Star, how's it going? Welcome to the Unlimited Hangout

podcast. Thank you. It's nice to be here. Awesome. All right. So to start off, how did I first hear

about and get interested in this neuro rights phenomenon you may be asking?

Well, it turns out Chile, the long, skinny country in South America, where I've lived for eight years, is the testbed for this legislation and also for the neuro rights constitutional amendment.

But no Chilean actually wrote this legislation or this amendment, which have now since

passed, making Chile the first in the world to legislate neuro rights. Instead of these Chilean laws

being written by Chileans, it was instead written by Rafael Yuste, a Spanish-American neuroscientist, with

deep ties to Silicon Valley, one of Jeffrey Epstein's best science pals

and the U.S. government and military's brain mapping initiatives. Of course, that's not being

mentioned here in Chile and media, which instead is only happy to trumpet. We're the first,

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